the new Ottley Courier A gathering place for the descendants and family of Edward Ottley and Harriet Mills

The passenger list of the “Wisconsin” which left Liverpool 16 May 1885 and arrived New York 27 May 1885 shows Otterley (sic) : James born 1849 (must be Edward), Thirza 1852, Jessie T 1874, Henry G 1875, Eleanor T 1876, Frederick T 1879, Edward C 1881, Frank 1882 and Thirza T 1884. There is an account of this in the notes of Henry. The family was delayed by landing officials until the afternoon of the next day after arriving as two other immigrant ships had arrived before them.

Granter Ottley wrote a history of his father Henry George (1874-1941), who was known as Harry; many of Harry`s friends and in-laws never knew him as anything else. Harry`s father and mother and seven children joined the rest of their family when they were sent money by them in 1885; Harry told of a swing being built by the sailors at the end of a yard-arm, being put on it, and swinging way out over the water. Harry tried to explain his feelings as, at the age of eleven, he saw the beautiful lady standing at the entrance to Ellis Island. His father was a “Pattern Maker” by trade, and had several chests of tools as well as clothes and household items, and Harry and his older sister Jessie had to keep the little ones quiet as they were standing in line in the immigration offices. A long wait to find a dray to get to the railroad station. Another long wait to board a train headed west. Met at Salt Lake City by Harry`s uncle and grandfather, with a wagon and team of horses, and taken to grandfather`s place at South Cottonwood where they lived until Harry`s father found work as a builder (no pattern makers required) and later Harry joined him. They got the contract to build a modern house for George W.Granter, a very successful person in Murray, who had an older daughter Doris…they moved to Sugar House about 1906. Harry and brother Ted formed Ottley Bros.Construction Co. and they moved to Oak City and hired three other brothers, one cousin and some transients, as no locals – no town – though Burtner (now Delta) there later. Took a terrible loss after flume collapsed in flood, but later bought 40 acres land NW Delta, Ted bought 40 acres adjoining to north, and his father Edward the 40 north of that, and this was home for next 20 years.

Warren Sidney Ottley
Kia ngawari e haere ra

A gentle man, husband, father, grandfather, brother and friend, passed away peacefully at the home of his daughter after a brief but valiant fight with cancer, on Monday March 17th, 2003.

He was born on September 18, 1917 in Banida, Idaho to Sidney James and Alice Warren Ottley. Warren attended North Sevier High School and graduated from South High. He attended both Brigham Young University and the University of Utah. He served in World War II in the Signal Corps and Air Corps. He served four full-time missions for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints – two of these in his beloved New Zealand.

Warren married Elizabeth Taylor on February 24, 1943 in the Salt Lake Temple; later divorced. Married Maurine Jensen Jeffery on February 26, 1983 in Salina. She preceded him in death in 1998. Married Beth Anderson Elledge on May 27, 2000 in Centerville. He was involved with his father and brothers at Ottley’s Paint Pot in Sugar House, and in management and ownership of various businesses until his retirement. Survived by wife, Beth; children: Warren S. Ottley Jr., Barbara (Bob) Hoffman; stepchildren: Linda Hladky, Peggy (Mel) Arent and Larry Hladky; brothers: Wayne Wilmur (LuRee) Ottley, Verlo Edward (Joyce) Ottley, Jerold Don (JoAnn) Ottley, and brother-in-law, O. Martel Pedersen; 12 grandchildren; eight great-grand-children and former wife Elizabeth T. Ottley. Preceded in death by his parents; his brother, Glen Eldon Ottley; wife, Maurine; sister, Lael Ottley Pedersen; granddaughter, Lorelei-Marie Kaleokalani Ottley and great-granddaughter, Haliaaloha Huber.

Funeral services under the direction of Jenkins-Soffe Mortuary, Saturday March 22, 11:00 a.m. at the Bountiful 11th Ward Chapel (2000 So. Orchard Dr.) Viewing, Friday March 21, 6:00-8:00 p.m. at Jenkins-Soffe Mortuary, 4760 So. State, Murray and 9:00-10:45 a.m. prior to the service in Bountiful. Interment at Larkin Memorial Gardens in Sandy. The family wishes to give their warm and heartfelt gratitude to the IHC Hospice Team. Send condolences to the family at wso@redrock.net.

Chris and Lisa Bjornberg have recently moved from Boise, Idaho, where Chris was layed off by Forester Insurance to Blackfoot, Idaho, where he has landed a job as an Accounting Officer for Eastern Idaho Credit Union in Pocatello.

After the sudden and unexpected lay off, Chris and Lisa made the move to Blackfoot where they had been planning ot move later in the year. It took a couple of weeks of job search and interviews and then a week of training then Chris started his new job on Friday, 28 February 2003.

Lisa reports that she and the boys, T.J. and Ryan, have been passing around a cold, but for the most part are doing well.

Grandpa is anxiously awaiting their visit to Provo planned for the weekend of March 22.

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Edward Ottley – Harriet Mills
– Frederick Hugh Ottley
— Teggie Harriet Ottley (Barker) (Krause)
— Abbie Barker (Pyne)
—- Richard Barker Pyne
—– Lisa Pyne Christopher Ryan Bjornberg

sent from 6344 South 700 East, Midvale, Utah..

[Earl Henry Ottley (1910-1991) never married. He was the 4th child of Edward Charles & Irene Litson Ottley. Earl’s uncle Fred was the 5th child of Edward & Thirza Timbers Ottley.]

Extracts relating to his visit to England with the Tabernacle Choir :

“I was equipped with the mailing list from the Ottley Courier, but aside from that I was as ignorant as to who was what or where was where as one possibly could be. I scanned the telephone directories of London, but found no names corresponding to those on the lists I had, so I proceeded to start calling long distance, starting with the first name on the list. There was no telephone under the first name. The second name I found had no telephone either. The third name I tried to contact was Percy Ottley at Marks Tey, Colchester. His wife, Marjorie, was most delighted to hear from me, and had been primed as to my coming on the Tour through the Ottley Courier. She directed me, but I found London a much larger place than I thought, and I proceeded to get lost, missed a train, but reached their house at dusk in the evening. I little dreamed they lived 2 hours from London! I spent a most delightful evening with Percy, his wife Marjorie, their daughter Janet (their only child), and her boy friend Kenneth Warner, who may by this time be a member of the family. I was taken to visit Percy’s Uncle George [Edward John?] now 76, and his wife. They were a most delightful couple to talk to. I was surely sorry I did not have my flash camera equipment with me so I could have taken their pictures. I shall always remember him, smoking the tiniest cigarettes I had ever seen and recalling old times, thinking all the while, I am sure, that I was my father Edward.

Percy had begun to build a new house on the same lot as his Uncle George lived. It was interesting to know that carpentry was practiced by the English members of the family as were so many of father’s brothers and Grandfather Edward. We then went to visit Ethel whom I seemed a little acquainted with because my sister Mildred had corresponded with her. Again it was a lovely time of reminiscing for she had a number of pictures of various members of our families here. They all asked about you. It was then that I learned that the branch of the family I thought I was visiting, the John Ottley branch, lived farther to the north [south] in the Eastbourne area. I was a bit embarrassed at their hesitancy to discuss the other family, so I said no more on that. Marjorie and Percy talked much about Dean Ottley, your grandson, I believe, who stayed with them after his mission. They also knew my Uncle Frank’s boy Alton who was killed in the war. My brother-in-law, Merlin Shaw, had visited them, too, after his mission to Germany.

I spent the night with them to prolong my visit as long as I could, and left early next morning in order to be present at the ground-breaking ceremonies for the London Temple. How happy I was to have seen some of my relatives. How I wished I could see the others.

My wishes must have been heard, for I had just entered the Royal Albert Hall before our London concert, when word was passed to me that someone wished to see me outside. Imagine my surprise to find Zillah Ottley, Dora Ottley Verrall and her husband Charles, Dora and John Prior, Ettie Bainbridge, Jessica Stoneham and Ann Waine [Warne, aged 16], all relatives of ours! I don’t know when I was more surprised and thrilled! They had driven 80 miles to hear the concert, hoping at the same time that they might see me, too. They had read the announcement in the Ottley Courier. 15 minutes is not very long to visit eight relatives you have never seen before and goodness knows when you will see them again, but we made the most of it. How I wished we were not leaving London the next morning to continue our tour! I was most happy, though, to know I had met folks from the John Ottley line, too. Here again, I wished I had been equipped with camera and flash, but we were requested to leave these behind at concerts.

But I did get several nice pictures of Percy’s family which I am enclosing. I hope you find a bit of joy in them.

Ann Chiswell’s American penfriend told of her woes: It had snowed and the car needed repair. She had been out, but her muffler was trailing along the ground. Ann appreciated that Isabelle had needed a scarf if it was cold, but why did she let it trail in the snow?

Edward was baptised 25 aug 1782 in Tostock, Suffolk, the oldest surviving child of Edward and Hannah (Bridge) Ottley who had been married 20 aug 1776 at Rede, Suffolk..

Edward married Susannah Collins (who seems to have been an only child) 10 jun 1804 at Sible Hedingham in Essex, the county to the south of Suffolk. He was 22 and she was 21.

It is not improbable that they had just ended their apprenticeships, either in trade or in farmwork, which had begun as was the custom when they were fourteen and ended seven years later.

Nor is it improbable that this was a shotgun wedding, though we have as yet no evidence of an older child born in the 18 months between the wedding and the baptism of twins Martha and Mary on 17 jan 1806, the day their mother was buried at Great Maplestead, Essex. Martha survived her mother by four days, and Mary for almost a month, and they were buried in the same churchyard.

How long had the family been living at Great Maplestead? Who looked after the babies when their mother died? Edward? A wet-nurse? Their grandparents from Tostock or Sible Hedingham?

Eleven years passed. The Battle of Trafalgar had been in 1805, yet in 1815 England was again at war with France. Is this the period that Edward was in France – a sort of “Scarlet Pimpernel”? Was Edward caught by the press gang on a trip to London, spending these years in the royal navy? Did he have other children and marry other wives?

Edward married Frances Holmes 12 may 1817 at Halstead, an ancient market town. He was 35 and she was 32 and two months pregnant.

Was he there when their son Edward was baptised 26 dec 1817? Family tradition says that he was a gentleman’s gentleman (valet) and died in France. Or had he committed a crime and been transported to Australia where it seems there are Ottleys today? Had he been supporting Frances and Edward? Did her parents? Why did Frances wait nine years and not the usual seven for him to be legally “missing presumed dead”, before she married Abraham Whiting 31 mar 1826 at Gosfield, Essex. Again she was pregnant.

If Abraham had adopted Edward, our family name would have been Whiting. Now there’s a thought!

In 1986 Amstrad had a brilliant idea and brought out a package of keyboard, screen and printer.

No need to worry about which piece matched what, so as we had no experience with computers we bought the package like many other people who had been faltering on the brink.

On the day it arrived we took it all out of its carton and placed it on our dining-room table. A knock came at the door : a lady wanted to ask us about the local Family History Society, so we invited her indoors.

Her first words were, “I see that you have a computer link to Somerset House where all the birth, marriage and death information from 1837 for all of England and Wales is kept!”

If only we had known how to to use a computer at that point, and if only what she said had been true about the link which still does not exist. We often laugh about that day.

Sean T. Pyne, who is serving in the US Army, has been sent to the Persian Gulf.

Sean’s wife Clarese writes:

Sean wanted me to send everyone his mailing address. He doesn’t have access to any computers and he no longer has access to the phone. He would love to get letters and/or pictures from everyone.

Address:

SPC SEAN PYNE
ARMT Aco 603D ASB
3D ID (MECH), 4TH BDE
UNIT 93415
APO AE 09303-3415

Edward Ottley – Harriet Mills
. Frederick Hugh Ottley
.. Teggie Harriet Ottley (Barker) (Krause)
… Abbie Barker (Pyne)
…. Kelvin Barker Pyne
….. Sean Toomer Pyne

In her book “Records of an ancient family” published in London, England in 1923, Jane Emily Ottley traces the history of the Ottley family, concentrating mainly on her particular branch of this family.

Her branch began with a David de Oteley who was guardian of the castle of Ellesmere in Shropshire in
1280 AD and ends with an Adam Ottley who died in 1807 [who] never married and thus had no children to carry on the name. [If he died in childless in 1807 how could he be her ancestor?]

Then follows details of fighting between Angles, Saxons, Picts and Scots on what is now British soil, ending with the beheading of Hengist whose son Otte was spared and granted land in about 500 AD which became known as “the land of Otte” or Otteley.

Mention is made of three branches of the Oteley family in Yorkshire, Shropshire and Suffolk.

Jane Emily Ottley quotes “Nomina Villaris” where there ‘are five distinct branches of the Ottleys, all giving their name to a town or village, Otley of Clun & Ellesmere in Shropshire, Ottley of Pitchford, Shropshire, Otteley of Suffolk, an Otteley mayor of London in 1434, and Oteley of Shrewsbury in Shropshire.’

I am Susan Ottley Palmer, daughter of Fred E. Ottley, grand daughter of Frederick Hugh Ottley.

I currently live in Orlando, FL. as my husband Jim and I are Full Time Ordinance Workers in the Orlando Florida Temple. Our home is in Brunswick Georgia.

We have 5 children. Two in Georgia and 3 in Charlotte, North Carolina. We have 10 living grandchildren, with another due in March.